This, then, is the foundation of their position. They say:
“We agreed with you that it is impossible for anything subject to His will and power to subsist (1) in the Lord, but we disagreed with you that His speech is created and separate from Him. This gives rise to what you described as inconsistency on our part (2). If these two positions can be reconciled, then we are not being inconsistent. But if they cannot, then we must be mistaken (3) on one of the two issues; yet the error does not necessarily lie in the issue on which we disagreed with you. Rather, we may be mistaken (4) in what we agreed with you upon (5): that the Lord does not speak by His will and power with speech subsisting in Him. Indeed, affirming that He does so is the view of the majority (6) of Ahl al-Hadith and of various groups of speculative theologians, including the Murji'ites, Karramites, Shi'ites, and others. It may even be the view of most adherents of the various schools.
“Even if we must be mistaken (7) on one of the two issues, without it being determined which, it does not follow that you are correct (8). Rather, if we are compelled to agree with one of the two groups, it is better for us to agree with those who say, ‘The Lord speaks—with speech subsisting in Him (9)—by His will and power,’ than to agree with those who say, ‘His speech is only what He creates in another,’ for the unsoundness of