400 — Ali ibn Muhammad ibn Ahmad ibn Bakr informed us; he said: Al-Hasan ibn Muhammad ibn Uthman informed us; he said: Ya‘qub ibn Sufyan narrated to us; he said: Al-Hasan ibn al-Sabbah al-Bazzar narrated to us; he said: Ma‘bad Abu Abd al-Rahman al-Kufi narrated to us, from ⦗269⦘ Mu‘awiyah ibn Ammar, who said: I asked Ja‘far ibn Muhammad. [Chain shift]
401 — And Ahmad ibn Abd Allah ibn al-Khidr informed us; he said: Ahmad ibn al-Hasan informed us; he said: Abd Allah ibn Ahmad ibn Hanbal narrated to us; he said: Abbas ibn Abd al-Azim narrated to me; he said: Ruwaym ibn Yazid al-Muqri’ narrated to us; he said: Ma‘bad ibn Rashid al-Kufi narrated to us, from Mu‘awiyah ibn Ammar al-Duhni, who said: Ja‘far was asked. [Chain shift]
402 — And Ahmad ibn Ubayd informed us; he said: Muhammad ibn al-Husayn informed us; he said: Ahmad ibn Abi Khaythamah informed us; he said: Isma‘il ibn Ubayd ibn Abi Karimah narrated to us; he said: Yahya ibn Abd al-Hamid al-Himmani narrated to us; he said: Mu‘awiyah ibn Ammar al-Duhni narrated to us; he said: I asked Ja‘far ibn Muhammad about the Quran, and he replied, “It is neither a creator nor created; rather, it is the speech of Allah.”
403 — Abd al-Rahman ibn Abi Hatim mentioned it. He said: Abd Allah, the client of al-Muhallab ibn Abi Sufrah, narrated to us; he said: Ali ibn Ahmad ibn Ali ibn Ja‘far ibn Muhammad narrated to us, from his father, from his grandfather, from his brother Musa ibn Ja‘far, who said: My father Ja‘far ibn Muhammad was asked about the Quran: “Is it a creator or created?” He replied, “If it were a creator, it would be worshipped; and if it were created, it would perish.”
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404 — Ibn Abi Hatim also narrated it from Ibn Nashit, Muhammad ibn Harun, from Barakah ibn Muhammad al-Halabi, from Marwan ibn Mu‘awiyah al-Fazari, who said: We were with Ja‘far, and he mentioned something similar to it.