1818 — Muhammad ibn Ahmad informed us; Uthman ibn Ahmad informed us; Hanbal narrated to us, saying: Abu Abd Allah told me; he said: Abd Allah ibn Numayr narrated to us, from Ja‘far al-Ahmar, who said: Mansur ibn al-Mu‘tamir said concerning a matter, “I do not say as the misguided, innovating Murji’ah have said.”