or if he sees him actively pursuing the claim and therefore says to him, “I hold testimony for you which I heard from the very man who is now denying it.” At another time Mālik said that such a witness should not come forward, for he feared the debtor might have acknowledged a liability that has since been discharged—unless the witness actually heard him say, “It is still outstanding against me to this very hour,” or words to that effect that leave no doubt the obligation was still in force when he confessed. Whenever that is the case, the testimony is admissible and takes full legal effect.