Majmu' al-FatawaIbn Taimiya

This objection is invalid and does not help your case, for the existence of the Creator—glorified and exalted be He—is established by self-evident knowledge, revelation, reason, and common agreement. Either He is separate from the world and above it, or He is within the world, occupying the same space as it, or He is neither.

If you say that He occupies the same space as the world, your argument fails. For if you allow that He descends while He Himself is in every place, then, in your view, it would not be impossible for what is above the Throne to be without Him. Indeed, it is always without Him, since, according to you, nothing exists there. You are then asked: “Is it conceivable, on this account, that He is in every place and nevertheless descends to the lowest heaven?”

If you say, “Yes,” you are asked: “When He descends, are some places left without Him, or not?”

If you say, “Some places are left without Him,” this is analogous to the Throne being left without Him. If you say, “No place is left without Him,” this is analogous to the Throne not being left without Him. If you allow that no place is left without Him, your opponent may allow that the Throne is not left without Him.

Thus, your own position entails the very consequence entailed by your opponent’s. Indeed, your position is further removed from what is rationally conceivable, for the descent of One who is above the world is more readily conceivable than the descent of one who indwells the entire world. The latter’s descent is wholly inconceivable. You have fallen into the equivalent of the very indwelling you sought to avoid. Indeed, your opponent, who allows that He is above the world, that He is greater than the world, and that He descends to the world, shows greater reverence for Allah than you do.

He is also asked: “Is it conceivable that there are two independently existing entities, one occupying the same space as the other?”

If he says, “No,” his position is invalidated. If he says, “Yes,” he is told: “Then let it be conceivable that He is above the Throne and descends to the lowest heaven without the Throne being left without Him, for this is more rationally conceivable than your saying that He indwells the world.”

هَذَا الِاعْتِرَاضُ بَاطِلٌ لَا يَنْفَعُك لِأَنَّ الْخَالِقَ سُبْحَانَهُ وَتَعَالَى مَوْجُودٌ بِالضَّرُورَةِ وَالشَّرْعِ وَالْعَقْلِ وَالِاتِّفَاقِ. فَهُوَ إمَّا أَنْ يَكُونَ مُبَايِنًا لِلْعَالَمِ فَوْقَهُ وَإِمَّا أَنْ يَكُونَ مُدَاخِلًا لِلْعَالَمِ محايثا وَإِمَّا أَنْ يَكُونَ لَا هَذَا وَلَا هَذَا. فَإِنْ قُلْت: إنَّهُ محايث لِلْعَالَمِ بَطَلَ قَوْلُك فَإِنَّك إذَا جَوَّزْت نُزُولَهُ وَهُوَ بِذَاتِهِ فِي كُلِّ مَكَانٍ؛ لَمْ يَمْتَنِعْ عِنْدَك خُلُوُّ مَا فَوْقَ الْعَرْشِ مِنْهُ بَلْ هُوَ دَائِمًا خَالٍ مِنْهُ لِأَنَّهُ هُنَاكَ لَيْسَ عِنْدَك شَيْءٌ ثُمَّ يُقَالُ لَك: وَهَلْ يُعْقَلُ مَعَ هَذَا أَنْ يَكُونَ فِي كُلِّ مَكَانٍ وَأَنَّهُ مَعَ هَذَا يَنْزِلُ إلَى السَّمَاءِ الدُّنْيَا؟ فَإِنْ قُلْت: نَعَمْ؛ قِيلَ لَك: فَإِذَا نَزَلَ هَلْ يَخْلُو مِنْهُ بَعْضُ الْأَمْكِنَةِ أَوْ لَا يَخْلُو؟ فَإِنْ قُلْت: يَخْلُو مِنْهُ بَعْضُ الْأَمْكِنَةِ؛ كَانَ هَذَا نَظِيرَ خُلُوِّ الْعَرْشِ مِنْهُ. فَإِنْ قُلْت: لَا يَخْلُو مِنْهُ مَكَانٌ؛ كَانَ هَذَا نَظِيرَ كَوْنِ الْعَرْشِ لَا يَخْلُو مِنْهُ. فَإِنْ جَوَّزْت هَذَا؛ كَانَ لِخَصْمِك أَنْ يُجَوِّزَ هَذَا. فَقَدْ لَزِمَك عَلَى قَوْلِك مَا يَلْزَمُ مُنَازِعَك بَلْ قَوْلُك أَبْعَدُ عَنْ الْمَعْقُولِ لِأَنَّ نُزُولَ مَنْ هُوَ فَوْقَ الْعَالَمِ أَقْرَبُ إلَى الْمَعْقُولِ مِنْ نُزُولِ مَنْ هُوَ حَالٌّ فِي جَمِيعِ الْعَالَمِ فَإِنَّ نُزُولَ هَذَا لَا يُعْقَلُ بِحَالِ وَمَا فَرَرْت مِنْهُ مِنْ الْحُلُولِ وَقَعْت فِي نَظِيرِهِ بَلْ مُنَازِعُك الَّذِي يُجَوِّزُ أَنْ يَكُونَ فَوْقَ الْعَالَمِ وَهُوَ أَعْظَمُ عِنْدَهُ مِنْ الْعَالَمِ وَيَنْزِلُ إلَى الْعَالَمِ أَشَدُّ تَعْظِيمًا لِلَّهِ مِنْك وَيُقَالُ لَهُ: هَلْ يُعْقَلُ مَوْجُودَانِ قَائِمَانِ بِأَنْفُسِهِمَا أَحَدُهُمَا محايث لِلْآخَرِ؟ فَإِنْ قَالَ: لَا؛ بَطَلَ قَوْلُهُ. وَإِنْ قَالَ: نَعَمْ؛ قِيلَ لَهُ: فَلْيُعْقَلْ أَنَّهُ فَوْقَ الْعَرْشِ وَأَنَّهُ يَنْزِلُ إلَى السَّمَاءِ الدُّنْيَا وَلَا يَخْلُو مِنْهُ الْعَرْشُ فَإِنَّ هَذَا أَقْرَبُ إلَى الْعَقْلِ مِمَّا إذَا قُلْت: إنَّهُ حَالٌّ فِي الْعَالَمِ.

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