“What is your view regarding the Muḥakkima Khārijites?”

He replied, “They are the vilest of the Khārijites.”

I asked, “Do you declare them unbelievers?”

He said, “No; however, we fight them just as the righteous leaders fought them—ʿAlī and ʿUmar ibn ʿAbd al-ʿAzīz.”

I said,