Jimāʿ al-ʿIlmAl-Shafi'i

and provide an example, that we may understand exactly what both you and he are saying.”

308 – He answered, “Very well. If those same four men you used as an illustration were all to narrate, and their narrations agreed that the Messenger of Allah ﷺ had declared something forbidden or permissible, I would take the agreement of their reports—together with the fact that their homelands are far apart, that each one took the knowledge from someone other than the person from whom his companion took it, and that the transmitter who brought it to us received it from someone who had not taken it from his own companion—as proof that, when their reports tally in this way about the Messenger of Allah ﷺ, error is impossible.

309 – I said to him, “So in your view tawātur is not established by four individuals who live in a single town, nor even if the inhabitants of that town accept their reports, until the Medinite narrates from a Medinite, the Meccan from a Meccan, the Basran from a Basran, and the Kufan from a Kufan—each chain ending with a Companion of the Prophet ﷺ different from the Companion to whom the chain of his colleague goes back—and then they all unite in narrating from the Prophet ﷺ, for the reason you have just described?”

310 – He replied, “Yes; for if they live in one town they could agree among themselves to fabricate the report, whereas such collusion is impossible when they dwell in different lands.”

311 – I said to him, “What a sorry foundation you have laid against the very man you have appointed as your imam in matters of religion, when you set it up at the outset only to tear it down yourself!”

312 – He said, “Then show me what flaw follows from it.”

313 – I said to him, “Consider this: were you to meet one of the veterans of Badr—the foremost of the Companions, whom Allah praised in His Book—and he related to you a report from the Messenger of Allah ﷺ, by your criterion his report would afford you no proof and would impose no obligation upon you. If that is so, is it not even more fitting that those who came after them should have their solitary reports rejected, since they are inferior to the Badri Companions in every virtue, and whatever possibility of error you admit concerning those who are greater and more numerous is surely even more likely in those beneath them?”

له مثالا لنعلم ما يقول وتقول؟. ٣٠٨ - قال: نعم إذا وجدت هؤلاء النفر للأربعة الذين جعلتهم مثالا يروون فتتفق روايتهم أن رسول الله ﷺ حرم شيئا أو أحل استدللت على أنهم بتباين بلدانهم وإن كل واحد منهم قبل العلم عن غير الذي قبله عنه صاحبه وقبله عنه من أداه إلينا ممن لم يقبل عن صاحبه أن روايتهم إذا كانت هكذا تتفق عَنْ رَسُولِ اللَّهِ ﷺ فالغلط لا يمكن فيها. ٣٠٩ - قال: وقلت: له لا يكون تواتر الأخبار عندك عن أربعة في بلد ولا إن قبل عنهم أهل بلد حتى يكون المدني يروي عن المدني والمكي يروي عن المكي والبصري يروي عن البصري والكوفي يروي عن الكوفي حتى ينتهي كل واحد منهم بحديثة إلى رجل من أصحاب النبي ﷺ غير الذي روى عنه صاحبه ويجمعوا جميعا على الرواية عن النبي ﷺ للعلة التي وصفت؟. ٣١٠ - قال: نعم لأنهم إذا كانوا في بلد واحد أمكن فيهم التواطؤ على الخبر ولا يمكن فيهم إذا كانوا في بلدان مختلفة!. ٣١١ - فقلت: له لبئس ما نثبت به على من جعلته إماما في دينك إذا ابتدأت وتعقبت!. ٣١٢ - قال: فاذكر ما يدخل علي فيه؟. ٣١٣ - فقلت: له أرأيت لو لقيت رجلا من أهل بدر وهم المقدمون من أثنى الله تعالى عليهم في كتابه فأخبرك خبرا عن رسول الله ﷺ لم تلفه حجة ولا يكون عليك خبره حجة لما وصفت أليس من بعدهم أولى أن لا يكون خبر الواحد منهم مقبولا لنقصهم عنهم في كل فضل وأنه يمكن فيهم ما أمكن فيمن هو خير منهم وأكثر منه؟!.

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