of something deemed reprehensible by all rational people, and Allah Most High is far above anything of the kind. Yet someone like al-Rāzī cannot consistently invoke this argument or the preceding one. He and his followers support the position of the Jahmī determinists, who do not consider the Lord above performing any possible act. Rather, they deem it possible for Him to do anything within His power. This includes creating sounds arranged in the form of speech that have no meaning, or have a meaning known to none but Him.

In his discussion of rulings in al-Mahsūl, al-Rāzī raised the question of Allah saying something without intending any meaning by it, taking a position opposed to the Hashwiyyah. He then argued that this would be pointless, and Allah Most High is above that. Both this attribution and this argument are weak, for we know of no one from any group who has said that Allah Most High may utter speech without intending any meaning by it. Rather, what some have said is that