The Jahmī should also be challenged: if Allah is with us in the greatness of His very Self, ask him: ‘Does Allah forgive you concerning what is between Him and His creation?’ If he says, ‘Yes,’ he has acknowledged that Allah is separate from His creation and that His creation is beneath Him. If he says, ‘No,’ he has disbelieved.

If you wish to establish that the Jahmī is lying about Allah when he claims that He is everywhere, rather than in one place and not another, ask him: ‘Did Allah not exist when nothing else existed?’ He will say, ‘Yes.’ Then ask him: ‘When He created things, did He create them within Himself or outside Himself?’ He will then be faced with three possible answers, [and must adopt] one of them:

If he claims that Allah created creation within Himself, he has disbelieved by claiming that He created creation, the devils, and Iblīs within Himself.

If he says, ‘He created them outside Himself, then entered into them,’ this too is disbelief, since he has claimed that He entered every place, every privy, and every filthy thing.

If he says, ‘He created them outside Himself, then did not enter into them,’ he has abandoned his position entirely. This is the position of Ahl al-Sunnah.”

Here ends Ahmad’s statement.