He said, ‘Point them out to me.’ He replied, ‘Two groups among those who profess Islam: the Jahmiyya and the Qadariyya. When a Jahmī goes to extremes, he says, “There is nothing there” (and al-Ashyab pointed to the sky). When a Qadarī goes to extremes, he says, “There are two: a creator of good and a creator of evil.”’ He then had him beheaded and crucified.”

The Muʿtazila brought together both these groups. Concerning them, Ibn al-Mubārak says:

“I do not profess the doctrine of Jahm,
for his doctrine at times resembles polytheism.
Nor do I say that the Lord of His servants abandoned His creation
and entrusted its affairs to Satan.”

It is also reported from Yahyā ibn Yūsuf al-Zammī that he said, “We were with