“The first sect is the Hishāmiyya, the followers of Hishām ibn al-Hakam. They claim that the one they worship is a finite, bounded body.” He then mentioned statements similar to those cited above.

He said: “He once existed without being in any place. Then place came into being when the Creator moved; thus, place came into being through His movement. He claimed that place is the Throne.”

He said: “Abū al-Hudhayl mentioned in one of his books that Hishām ibn al-Hakam told him that his Lord is indeed a body that comes and goes, moving at times and remaining still at others, sometimes sitting and sometimes standing, and that He is long, broad, and deep, because whatever is not so would amount to nothingness.”

He said: “The second sect claim that their Lord has no form and is not like bodies. By saying that He is a body, they mean only that He exists