Bayān Talbīs al-JahmiyyaIbn Taimiya

to say that He is not above the Throne, nor great and immense in Himself. Nor would what you have conceded entail that He is not above the Throne, even if He is said to be in a single spatial region or a single direction.

If you do not concede this, but instead claim that there is no Lord above the heavens and no God there at all; that Muhammad was not taken up to Allah Most High, but merely ascended to the upper reaches of the universe; and that the Lord of the worlds is neither within the universe nor outside it, they will say to you: “We maintain that whoever describes Him in these terms has made Him out to be nonexistent, and what is nonexistent is more insignificant than an indivisible atom. That being so, as long as you persist in this negation, we will not concede to you that He is more insignificant than an indivisible atom. For that would entail conceding two contradictory propositions: we would have conceded that He is nonexistent and that He is more insignificant than an indivisible atom. That is invalid.”

If, on this supposition, we do not concede to him that He is more insignificant than an indivisible atom, he cannot appeal to consensus, as already explained in a similar case. We have also already cited what he established at the beginning of his Nihāyah: appealing to a consensus of this kind, whose underlying grounds differ, is invalid both in independent reasoning and in debate. A disputant may not invoke someone’s agreement when it rests on grounds he does not believe to be sound. His opponent can reply: “Unless you agree with me on the underlying grounds, I will not concede the conclusion to you on this supposition, since I regard it as a supposition that does not hold.” Thus he has no argument in any case. Even if he were to invoke this by appealing to the innate disposition concerning

أن تقول ليس فوق العرش ولا هو في نفسه كبير وعظيم ولم يكن ما سلمتموه يستلزم أن لا يكون فوق العرش وإن قيل إنه في حيز واحد أو جهة واحدة وإن لم تسلم ذلك بل زعمت أنما فوق السموات رب ولا هناك إله أصلاً وأن محمداً لم يعرج به إلى الله تعالى بل صعد إلى علو العالم فقط وأن رب العالمين ليس داخل العالم ولا خارجه قالوا لك نحن نقول إن من وصفه بهذا فقد جعله معدوماً والمعدوم أحقر من الجوهر الفرد وإذا كان كذلك لم نسلم لك ما دمت مصراً على هذا النفي أنه أحقر من الجوهر الفرد فإن ذلك يستلزم تسليم النقيضين فنكون قد سلمنا أنه معدوم وأنه أحقر من الجوهر الفرد وذلك باطل وإذا لم نسلم له على هذا التقدير أنه أحقر من الجوهر الفرد لم يكن له أن يحتج بالإجماع كما تقدم نظير هذا وتقدم ما قرره في أول نهايته أن الاحتجاج بمثل هذا الإجماع الذي يختلف فيه المأخذ لا يصح نظراً ولا مناظرة فإن المناظر ليس له أن يحتج بموافقة موافق بناء ً على مأخذ لا يعتقد صحته والمناظر يجيبه خصمه بأنك إن وافقتني على المأخذ وإلا منعتك الحكم على هذا التقدير لأنه عندي تقدير غير واقع فلا يكون له حجة بحال ولو احتج بها في الفطرة في

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