other things, and that He is above the Throne.” His statement on this matter, and those of others, have already been cited. These are large groups, held in greater esteem among Muslims than those who say that He is not above the Throne. For none of those who deny His being above the Throne are known except as people whose reason and religion are regarded as suspect by the Muslim community, even if they have since repented of that. Indeed, most or all of them fell into some form of apostasy from Islam, although some returned to Islam, just as their earliest master, Jahm ibn Safwān, apostatized from it long ago and remained for forty days in doubt about his Lord,