while Mansūr ibn Talhah was with him. Mansūr said to me, “Abū Ya‘qūb, do you say that Allah descends to the lowest heaven every night?” I replied, “And we believe it. If you do not believe that you have a Lord in heaven, you need not ask me about this.” Ibn Tāhir said, “Did I not tell you to leave this shaykh alone?”’”

It was also narrated from Muhammad ibn Hātim: “I heard