Siyar Aʿlām al-NubalāʾShams al‑Din al‑Dhahabi

This is a singular hadith, and Mujālid is a weak transmitter.

Among the words of ʿUthmān—may Allah have mercy on him—in his book al-Naqd are these: “The Muslims are unanimously agreed that Allah, exalted is He, is above His Throne, above His heavens.”

I say: The clearest text on this subject is His statement, “The All-Merciful rose over the Throne” (Q 20:5). It is to be accepted as it has come, in the manner well known among the early generations, while one is forbidden to indulge in speculative probing, disputation, and the Muʿtazilī reinterpretations*—“Our Lord, we have believed in what You revealed and we have followed the Messenger” (Q 3:53).

Yaʿqūb ibn Isḥāq said, “I heard ʿUthmān ibn Saʿīd say: ‘No one of any repute ever delved into this topic without being ruined. He mentioned al-Karābīsī, and he fell until he is no longer spoken of. We also had with us a man who was a keen, discerning ḥāfiẓ; Sulaymān ibn Ḥarb and the elders of Basra used to honor him. He was my companion and close friend—yet when he spoke about it, he too was ruined.’ ”

Al-Ḥasan ibn Ṣāḥib⦗1⦘ al-Shāshī said, “I asked Abū Dāwūd al-Sijistānī about ʿUthmān ibn Saʿīd.” He replied, “From him we learned hadith.”

Abū Isḥāq Aḥmad ibn Muḥammad ibn Yūnus said, “ʿUthmān ad-Dārimī died in Dhū al-Ḥijjah, in the year 280 AH.”

This is the same date recorded by Isḥāq al-Qarrāb and others, whereas what Abū ʿAbd Allah al-Dabbī transmitted from—

= The hadith of Umar is reported by Abu Yaʿla with ʿAbd al-Rahman ibn Ishaq al-Wasiti in the chain. The hadith of ʿUqba ibn ʿAmir is cited by al-Ruyani in his Musnad (9/50/2) and includes Ibn Lahiʿa. The hadith of Abu al-Dardaʾ is recorded by al-Tabarani in al-Kabir; see Majmaʿ al-Zawaʾid 1/173–174. (1) Al-Samʿani states (7/245): “Abu ʿAli al-Hasan ibn Sahib ibn Humayd al-Shashi was one of the travelling scholars who journeyed through Khurasan, the mountain regions, Iraq, the Hijaz and Syria. He heard a large number of hadiths … He was reliable and died in Shash in 314 A.H. In the printed edition of al-Lubab his name has been mistakenly printed as ‘Hajib’ instead of ‘Sahib’.”
هَذَا حَدِيْثٌ غَرِيْبٌ، وَمُجَالِدٌ ضَعِيْفُ الحَدِيْثِ. وَمِنْ كَلاَمِ عُثْمَانَ ﵀ فِي كِتَابِ (النَّقْضِ) لَهُ: اتفَقَتِ الكَلِمَةُ مِنَ المُسْلِمِيْنَ أَنَّ اللهَ تَعَالَى فَوْقَ عَرْشِهِ، فَوْقَ سَمَاوَاتِهِ. قُلْتُ: أَوْضَحُ شَيْءٍ فِي هَذَا البَابِ قَوْلُهُ ﷿: ﴿الرَّحْمَنُ عَلَى العَرْشِ اسْتوَى﴾ [طه: ٥] فَلْيُمَرَّ كَمَا جَاءَ، كَمَا هُوَ مَعْلُوْمٌ مِنْ مَذْهَبِ السَّلَفِ، وَيُنَهَى الشَّخْصُ عَنِ المُرَاقَبَةِ وَالجِدَالِ، وَتَأْوِيْلاَتِ المُعْتَزِلَةِ* ﴿رَبَّنَا آمَنَّا بِمَا أَنْزَلْتَ وَاتَّبَعْنَا الرَّسُوْلَ﴾ [آلُ عِمْرَانَ: ٥٣] . قَالَ يَعْقُوْبُ بنُ إِسْحَاقَ: سَمِعْتُ عُثْمَانَ بنَ سَعِيْدٍ يَقُوْلُ: مَا خَاضَ فِي هَذَا البَابِ أَحَدٌ مِمَّنْ يُذْكَرُ إِلاَّ سَقَطَ، فَذَكَرَ الكَرَابِيسِيّ فَسَقَطَ حَتَّى لاَ يُذْكَرَ، وَكَانَ مَعَنَا رَجُلٌ حَافِظٌ بَصِيْرٌ، وَكَانَ سُلَيْمَانُ بنُ حَرْبٍ وَالمَشَايِخُ بِالبَصْرَةِ يُكْرِمُوْنَهُ، وَكَانَ صَاحِبِي وَرَفِيْقِي -يَعْنِي: فَتَكَلَّم فِيْهِ- فَسَقَطَ. وَقَالَ الحَسَنُ بنُ صَاحِبٍ (١) الشَّاشِيُّ: سَأَلْتُ أَبَا دَاوُدَ السِّجِسْتَانِيَّ عَنْ عُثْمَانَ بنِ سَعِيْدٍ؟ فَقَالَ: مِنْهُ تَعَلَّمْنَا الحَدِيْثَ. قَالَ أَبُو إِسْحَاقَ أَحْمَدُ بنُ مُحَمَّدِ بنِ يُوْنُسَ: تُوُفِّيَ عُثْمَانُ الدَّارِمِيُّ فِي ذِي الحِجَّةِ، سَنَةَ ثَمَانِيْنَ وَمائَتَيْنِ. وهَكَذَا أَرَّخَهُ إِسْحَاقُ القَرَّابُ وَغَيْرُهُ، وَمَا رَوَاهُ أَبُو عَبْدِ اللهِ الضَّبِّيُّ عَنْ
= وحديث عمر عند أبي يعلى وفيه عبد الرحمن بن إسحاق الواسطي، وحديث عقبة بن عامر عند الروياني في " مسنده ". ٩ / ٥٠ / ٢ وفيه ابن لهيعة، وحديث أبي الدرداء عند الطبراني في " الكبير " انظر " مجمع الزوائد " ١ / ١٧٣، ١٧٤. (١) قال السمعاني: ٧ / ٢٤٥ " وأبو علي الحسن بن صاحب بن حميد الشاشي، أحد الرحالين إلى خراسان والجبال والعراق والحجاز والشام. كثير السماع ... وكان ثقة، وتوفي بالشاش سنة (٣١٤) وقد تحرف في المطبوع من " اللباب " إلى " حاجب " بدل " صاحب ".

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