Siyar Aʿlām al-NubalāʾShams al‑Din al‑Dhahabi

are irregular; we record his ḥadith only for comparison, but as for treating them as proof—no.

Muhammad ibn ʿAlī al-Jawzajānī the bookseller said:
“I asked Aḥmad, ‘Did ʿAmr ibn Shuʿayb hear anything from his father?’
He replied, ‘He says, “My father narrated to me.”’
I asked, ‘And did his father hear from ʿAbd Allāh ibn ʿAmr?’
He said, ‘Yes, it appears he did hear from him.’

Al-Athram reported: Abū ʿAbd Allāh was asked about ʿAmr ibn Shuʿayb and said, “Sometimes we cite him as evidence, and sometimes the heart feels uneasy about him; Mālik relates from a man who narrates from him.”

Al-Tirmidhī quoted al-Bukhārī as saying: “I saw Aḥmad, ʿAlī, Isḥāq, Abū ʿUbayd, and the great majority of our companions relying on the ḥadith of ʿAmr ibn Shuʿayb—from his father, from his grandfather. Not one of the Muslims abandoned it; so who, after them, would dare do so?”

I say: I find it improbable that these exact words came from al-Bukhārī; I fear Abū ʿĪsā may have been mistaken. Otherwise, al-Bukhārī does not even glance at ʿAmr—can you imagine him saying, “So who are the people after them?” and then never employing his reports, neither as primary evidence nor even for corroboration?

Indeed, those who did rely on him include the compilers of the four Sunan, Ibn Khuzaymah, Ibn Ḥibbān in certain instances, and al-Ḥākim (1).

Abū Dāwūd transmitted from Aḥmad, who said, “When the ḥadith scholars…"

(1) He writes in al-Mustadrak, 2/65: “Throughout this book I have marshalled numerous proofs for the soundness of the narrations of Amr ibn Shuayb whenever his transmitter is trustworthy. Yet I was still looking for unequivocal evidence that Shuayb ibn Muhammad actually heard from Abd Allah ibn Amr, and I did not obtain it until now. Abu al-Hasan Ali ibn Umar the hadith-scholar related to me; Abu Bakr Abd Allah ibn Muhammad ibn Ziyad, the jurist of Nishapur, narrated to us; Muhammad ibn Ubayd narrated to us; Ubayd Allah ibn Umar narrated to us, from Amr ibn Shuayb, from his father: A man came to Abd Allah ibn Amr asking about someone in ihram who had had intercourse with a woman. Abd Allah ibn Amr pointed to Abd Allah ibn Umar and said, ‘Go to him and ask.’ Shuayb continues: The man did not recognise Ibn Umar, so I accompanied him. He questioned Ibn Umar, who answered: ‘Your pilgrimage is invalid.’ The man then asked, ‘What should I do?’ Ibn Umar replied, ‘Enter ihram with the people, do what they do, and when the next year comes, perform the pilgrimage and offer a sacrificial animal.’ We returned to Abd Allah ibn Amr—I was with him—and he said, ‘Go to Ibn Abbas and ask him.’ Shuayb says: I went with the man to Ibn Abbas; he asked, and Ibn Abbas replied exactly as Ibn Umar had done. We then went back to Abd Allah ibn Amr—I was still with him—told him what Ibn Abbas had said, and he asked, ‘What is your own opinion?’ The man answered, ‘I hold the same view as the two of them.’”
مَنَاكِيْرُ، وَإِنَّمَا نَكْتُبُ حَدِيْثَهُ نَعْتَبِرُ بِهِ، فَأَمَّا أَنْ يَكُوْنَ حُجَّةً، فَلاَ. وَقَالَ مُحَمَّدُ بنُ عَلِيٍّ الجُوْزَجَانِيُّ الوَرَّاقُ: قُلْتُ لأَحْمَدَ: عَمْرُو بنُ شُعَيْبٍ سَمِعَ مِنْ أَبِيْهِ شَيْئاً؟ قَالَ: يَقُوْلُ: حَدَّثَنِي أَبِي. قُلْتُ: فَأَبُوْهُ سَمِعَ مِنْ عَبْدِ اللهِ بنِ عَمْرٍو؟ قَالَ: نَعَمْ، أُرَاهُ قَدْ سَمِعَ مِنْهُ. وَقَالَ الأَثْرَمُ: سُئِلَ أَبُو عَبْدِ اللهِ عَنْ عَمْرِو بنِ شُعَيْبٍ، فَقَالَ: رُبَّمَا احْتَجَجْنَا بِهِ، وَرُبَّمَا وَجَسَ فِي القَلْبِ مِنْهُ شَيْءٌ، وَمَالِكٌ يَرْوِي عَنْ رَجُلٍ عَنْهُ. وَقَالَ التِّرْمِذِيُّ: عَنِ البُخَارِيِّ: رَأَيْتُ أَحْمَدَ، وَعَلِيّاً، وَإِسْحَاقَ، وَأَبَا عُبَيْدٍ، وَعَامَّةَ أَصْحَابِنَا يَحْتَجُّوْنَ بِحَدِيْثِ عَمْرِو بنِ شُعَيْبٍ، عَنْ أَبِيْهِ، عَنْ جَدِّهِ، مَا تَرَكَهُ أَحَدٌ مِنَ المُسْلِمِيْنَ، فَمَنِ النَّاسُ بَعْدَهُم؟ قُلْتُ: أَسْتَبْعِدُ صُدُوْرَ هَذِهِ الأَلْفَاظِ مِنَ البُخَارِيِّ، أَخَافُ أَنْ يَكُوْنَ أَبُو عِيْسَى وَهِمَ. وَإِلاَّ فَالبُخَارِيُّ لاَ يُعَرِّجُ عَلَى عَمْرٍو، أَفَتَرَاهُ يَقُوْلُ: فَمَنِ النَّاسُ بَعْدَهُم، ثُمَّ لاَ يَحْتَجُّ بِهِ أَصْلاً وَلاَ مُتَابَعَةً؟ بَلَى، احْتَجَّ بِهِ: أَرْبَابُ السُّنَنِ الأَرْبَعَةِ، وَابْنُ خُزَيْمَةَ، وَابْن حِبَّانَ فِي بَعْضِ الصُّوَرِ، وَالحَاكِمُ (١) . وَرَوَى: أَبُو دَاوُدَ، عَنْ أَحْمَدَ، قَالَ: أَصْحَابُ الحَدِيْثِ إِذَا
(١) قال في " المستدرك " ٢ / ٦٥: " وقد أكثرت في هذا الكتاب الحجج في تصحيح روايات عمرو ابن شعيب إذا كان الراوي عنه ثقة، وكنت أطلب الحجة الظاهرة في سماع شعيب بن محمد، عن عبد الله بن عمرو، فلم أصل إليها إلا في هذا الوقت: حدثني أبو الحسن علي بن عمر الحافظ، حدثنا أبو بكر عبد الله بن محمد بن زياد الفقيه النيسابوري، حدثنا محمد بن عبيد، حدثنا عبيد الله بن عمر، عن عمرو بن شعيب عن أبيه أن رجلا أتى عبد الله بن عمرو يسأله عن محرم وقع بامرأة فأشار إلى عبد الله بن عمر، فقال: اذهب إلى ذاك، فسله، قال شعيب فلم يعرفه الرجل، فذهبت معه، فسأل ابن عمر، فقال: بطل حجك، فقال الرجل: فما أصنع؟ قال: أحرم مع الناس، واصنع ما يصنعون، وإذا أدركت قابلا، فحج وأهد، فرجع إلى عبد الله بن عمرو وأنا معه، فقال: اذهب إلى ابن عباس فسله، قال شعيب: فذهبت معه إلى ابن عباس، فسأله، فقال له كما قال ابن عمر، فرجع إلى عبد الله بن عمرو وأنا معه، فأخبره بما قال ابن عباس، ثم قال: ما تقول: أنت؟ فقال: قولي مثل ما قالا " هذا =

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