…or from someone else. In this version, al-Thaqafi relates it from an unidentified shaykh, and that shaykh in turn reports it from an unspecified transmitter; hence the anonymity in the chain is compounded. Another weakness is that the isnad contains Uqba b. Aws al-Sadusi al-Basri—also recorded as Yaqub b. Aws. Abu Dawud, al-Nasa i and Ibn Majah transmitted a hadith from him on the authority of Abd Allah b. Amr (some say: Abd Allah b. Umar), but its chain is inconsistent. Al-Ajli, Ibn Sa d and Ibn Hibban considered him trustworthy, while Ibn Khuzayma remarked that the eminent Ibn Sirin narrated from him. By contrast, Ibn Abd al-Barr judged him unknown, and al-Ghallabi, in his Tarikh, reports that people claim he never actually heard Abd Allah b. Amr and merely says, “Abd Allah b. Amr said….” On that basis, his narrations from Abd Allah b. Amr are regarded as disconnected (munqati ). (1) The nisba is vocalised with ra damma and mim fatha: al-Rumayla, a village in the Holy Land distinct from al-Ramlah. This Makki was taken prisoner by the Crusaders when they captured Jerusalem; they demanded a large sum of gold for his ransom, but none was paid, so they stoned him to death in 492 AH. His biography appears later in this volume, no. 99. (2) With a dotted jim, in the passive participle form: ‘the one selected from among others.’ The verb intajaba means to choose and single out. The person intended is the shaykh, imam and jurist Yahya b. Ali b. Abd al-Aziz al-Qurashi al-Dimashqi al-Shafii, known as Ibn al-Saigh (d. 534 AH); his notice will come in vol. 20, biography no. 39.