Al-Sharḥ al-MumtiʿIbn al-'Uthaymin

And speaking while there …

His statement, “and speaking while there,” means that it is disliked for a person relieving himself to speak in the lavatory. The evidence is that a man passed by the Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, while he was urinating and greeted him with peace, but he did not return the greeting (1).

They said: Had speaking been permissible, he would have returned the greeting, for returning a greeting of peace is obligatory (2).

Yet the implication of this reasoning is that speaking while relieving oneself is forbidden. For this reason, Ibn Muflih, may Allah have mercy on him, the author of al-Nukat, mentioned this issue and said: “The apparent implication of their reasoning is that it is prohibited,” and this is one of the two views on the matter (3).

However, they offered two answers to avoid the ruling of prohibition (4):

The first is that the one who gave the greeting did not deserve a response, since one should not greet a person who is relieving himself. Whoever gives a greeting at a time when he should not do so does not deserve a response. This is weak, because the Messenger, peace and blessings be upon him, did not explain his failure to return the greeting by saying that the man had greeted him at a time when he was not entitled to a response.

The second is that the Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, did not neglect an obligation, because after he had finished urinating, he returned the greeting and apologized to him (5).

(1) Reported by Muslim, Book of Menstruation, chapter: “Tayammum,” no. 370, on the authority of Ibn Umar. (2) See al-Mughni, 1:227. (3) See al-Nukat ala al-Muharrar, 1:8-9. (4) See Kashshaf al-Qina, 1:63; 2:128. (5) Reported by Ahmad, 4:345; Abu Dawud, Book of Purification, chapter: “Returning a Greeting While Urinating,” no. 17; al-Nasai, Book of Purification, chapter: “Returning a Greeting after Ablution,” no. 38; and Ibn Majah, Book of Purification, chapter: “A Man Is Greeted While Urinating,” no. 350, on the authority of al-Muhajir ibn Qunfudh: he came to the Prophet while he was urinating and greeted him, but he did not return the greeting until he had performed ablution. He then apologized to him and said, “I disliked mentioning Allah except in a state of purity.” It was graded authentic by Ibn Khuzaymah, Ibn Hibban, al-Hakim, al-Nawawi, and al-Dhahabi. See al-Khulasah, no. 355, and Fath al-Bari, commentary on hadith no. 6230.
وكَلَامُهُ فِيهِ ...... قوله: «وكَلامُهُ فيه»، يعني: يُكره كلامُ قاضي الحاجة في الخلاء، والدَّليل: أن رجلاً مرَّ بالنبيِّ ﷺ وهو يبول؛ فسلَّم عليه فلم يردَّ عليه السَّلام (١). قالوا: ولو كان الكلام جائزاً لردَّ عليه السَّلام؛ لأن ردَّ السَّلام واجب (٢). لكن مقتضى هذا الاستدلال أنه يحرم أن يتكلَّم وهو على قضاء حاجته، ولهذا ذكر صاحب «النُّكت» ابن مفلح ﵀ هذه المسألة وقال: وظاهر استدلالهم يقتضي التَّحريم، وهو أحد القولين في المسألة (٣). لكن اعتذروا عن القول بالتَّحريم بعذرين (٤): الأول: أن هذا المُسَلِّم لا يستحقُّ رَدًّا، لأنه لا ينبغي السَّلام على قاضي الحاجة، ومن سلَّم في حالٍ لا ينبغي أن يُسَلِّم فيها لم يستحقَّ رَدًّا. وهذا ضعيف؛ لأن الرَّسول ﷺ لم يعلِّلْ عدم رَدِّ السَّلام بأنَّه سَلَّم في حالٍ لا يستحقُّ الردَّ فيها. الثاني: أن النبيَّ ﷺ لم يترك الواجب؛ لأنَّه بعد أن انتهى من بوله رَدَّ عليه واعتذر منه (٥).
(١) رواه مسلم، كتاب الحيض: باب التيمم، رقم (٣٧٠). من حديث ابن عمر. (٢) انظر: «المغني» (١/ ٢٢٧). (٣) انظر: «النكت على المحرر» (١/ ٨، ٩). (٤) انظر: «كشاف القناع» (١/ ٦٣)، (٢/ ١٢٨). (٥) رواه أحمد (٤/ ٣٤٥)، وأبو داود، كتاب الطهارة: باب أيردُّ السلام وهو يتبول، رقم (١٧)، والنَّسائي، كتاب الطهارة: باب ردّ السَّلام بعد الوضوء، رقم (٣٨)، وابن ماجه، كتاب الطهارة: باب الرجل يُسلَّم عليه وهو يبول، رقم (٣٥٠) عن المهاجر بن قنفذ أنه أتى النبيَّ ﷺ وهو يبول، فسلَّم عليه فلم يرد عليه حتى توضَّأ، ثم اعتذر إِليه، فقال: «إِني كرهت أن أذكر الله إِلا على طُهر» وصحَّحه: ابن خزيمة، وابن حبان، والحاكم، والنووي، والذهبي. انظر: «الخلاصة» رقم (٣٥٥)، و «فتح الباري» شرح حديث رقم (٦٢٣٠).

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